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Big Plane vs Little Plane (The Economics of Long-Haul Flights)

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oscardequiros (26 minutes ago)
should do on on plane's safety! are they really that safe?
Mohamed Zahidin (1 hour ago)
i noticed you not using the Mercator lol nice one
Marco Tabo Silalahi (10 hours ago)
We love Boeing
JuliBroDaily 2 (18 hours ago)
4:51 Is that Alicante Airport? Please answer me because I would aprreciate an answer, Why am I curious? Well it looks like Alicante Airport and I've been there going to and from one holiday (Which was spring but it was still hot in Spain but in summer its like 40 my parents told me)
Trey Dahlberg (1 day ago)
2:05 Wouldn't it be 15 routes, not 16? I'm just imagining it as a full mesh network of routes, and the equation for a full mesh network is L=(n(n-1))/2
df1e (1 day ago)
How is the 787-8/9/10 Small?
Sean O (2 days ago)
I’m fine as long as nobody sits in my row I’ll just pull up up the armrest and make it into a bed
Jack Ryan (2 days ago)
He labeled shannon over knock airport
Aditya Sharma (2 days ago)
74 mpg/ seat? Can someone explain what does per seat mean?
Abhishek Dev (3 days ago)
Point to point is great. But I don't think Hub is going away soon.
Brian Phillips (3 days ago)
Great video! You make the complex, easy to understand!
Borat Golum (4 days ago)
Proudly presented by Boeing
Earione (4 days ago)
Long and skinny ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Eoghan Carr (5 days ago)
ETOPS was also very important
C2Lception (5 days ago)
A350 tho...
Emil 2323 (6 days ago)
Polska pozdrawia
Bantha121 (7 days ago)
Correction, the Newark transatlantics were opened by Continental (not United)
DateSan (8 days ago)
If the A380 is a failure, what about the 748? 🙄
Uryendel (8 days ago)
That video is stupid, the two planes are not competing each other, they're on a different range for different purpose and both airbus and boeing have other planes to compiting each other in those range. Also the purpose of the A380 (or the 747) is not to make profit using a hub-to-hub flight economy but to deal with airport who are saturated, because you know, airport have a limited size and can't take a million flight per day
khaled ajmi (9 days ago)
Why are you showin a KLM plane and u say that plane can take 200+ When i was In it to Thailand it could FIT 500+ ????
MrRamyon74 (9 days ago)
Bring on the 797!!
MrRamyon74 (9 days ago)
For those making this a Boeing verse Airbus argument..remember the 747-8i and A350 too... The 787 and A350 are definitely the sales winners, but A380 beats the 747-8i hands down in terms of sales success.
Danny Daniel (11 days ago)
Edinburgh is big I know I live there you should go there it’s awesome really go pack your cases
Will Gosling (13 days ago)
2:42 those 8 A380s fly over my house everyday
EliteGamer3105 (14 days ago)
Rip pan am airlines
Patrick OConnor (15 days ago)
Passengers from Hartford travelling to London should travel via the Dublin hub obviously . .............And the 787 is such an uncomfortable airplane, avoid avoid avoid
Thomas Bob (16 days ago)
My brother knows some me who works at Boeing. His job title is a little weird. I’m not joking his job is being the CEO’s bodyguard.
I still think that the 777-300er can do better then the a380 per cost since company latam use a hub system when they need a flight they go to congonas then São Paulo then London but they stoped useing a congonas hub since 2017 that when most staff where training to use and operate 787s and they are now thinking of going with a mix of 777 and 787
beanie before (17 days ago)
Euro Wings didn’t fail in my home town it’s a success in Germany Austria
sTrax (21 days ago)
I was about to comment and say that there are numerous airlines that operate transatlantic flights, recently Norwegian Airlines offered £200 return flights to Newark.
doomstand doom (21 days ago)
3:07 Аэросвит -!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MCRuCr (21 days ago)
uin 3:34 the unit must have been seat- or passengermiles per gallon
We flew from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Dublin, Ireland and it was quite a low demand. That explains why it was an A350.
Gavin TheGamer52 (23 days ago)
737 Mac ITS 737 MAX
marcossonicracer (24 days ago)
thank goodness for point to point flight. i am tired of travelling south to travel north! now i can go Recife=>New York without connecting with São Paulo. Excelent.
Henry Fliss (25 days ago)
I think the a350 is better than 787
Airwipe (25 days ago)
787 ain’t that small. But...
Connor Russell (26 days ago)
Luke Mills (26 days ago)
I think Manchester is a large airport. But it's probably an ant compared to JFK or Heathrow
Samer Shennar (26 days ago)
What about the per passenger fuel efficiency? That is the environmental friendliness?
Tom Bradford (27 days ago)
I like how he’s convinced that Edinburgh, Glasgow, Manchester and Birmingham are a lot smaller cities. Yeah, they’re smaller than London, but they’re massive lmao
ThatkidTrey Trey (30 days ago)
Just because the airbus 380 is big doesn’t mean is better omg 787 is not smal btw df
Joe Qiao (1 month ago)
Daily dose of internet?????????????? Please answer this one!!!!!!!!!!!
lilshogun (1 month ago)
in next infinite flight update there will be wing flex on all planes :)
Csongor Vassányi (1 month ago)
8:03 I think it is not a a failure because there are still high demand routes
listerone (1 month ago)
Airbus can't *give* away the A380 while the 787 is selling like hotcakes.
Friendy Travel Agent (1 month ago)
it's funny how American Airlines operates London to Chicago flights on 787s, and British Airways operates these flights on a380s.
Carlmaster96 (1 month ago)
The A380 isn't a failure. Nor is Birmingham a small city.
Wafie Rocks (1 month ago)
Somehow this makes me excited to travel
W426 1 (1 month ago)
Airbus A380 cough 36 orders from Emirates 3 ANA 1 by that leasing company.
Exolette (1 month ago)
Nah, I still pick A380 because it has a bar at the back end. And stop being triggered for an opinion.
Pug Productions (1 month ago)
3:32 It kinda looks like it says Anal on the side of the plane
Chris PL (1 month ago)
787 is unsafe as fuck. Even the people who manufacture it wont fly on it
Chris PL (1 month ago)
you deserve to be gassed. I dont use aluah akubar news. Keep dreaming
Protoplasm78 (1 month ago)
Chris PL How about you do some REAL research instead of relying on bullshit outdated Al Jazeera documentaries and the like to feed your bias. Your punk ass is just bitter that the whalejet is already a dinosaur and the 787 is selling just as many frames as all 3 of Airbus' widebody offerings combined. "Completely unsafe" my ass.
Chris PL (1 month ago)
Do some research yourself, instead of being fed bullshit from the media. Any interviews with workers tell the story that it is completely unsafe, and dozens of corners are cut to save money
Protoplasm78 (1 month ago)
Chris PL Not true at all. Who told you that lie?
Zacky Jacky (1 month ago)
You are a nice soft good ta touch man
philippe chevereau (1 month ago)
You are missing the reduced availability of slots in highly demanded airports which are saturated, so that doubling the capacity of your aircraft is equivalent to doubling your slots!
ieatpilli (1 month ago)
So, is the spoke and wheel model of flying going to die out? And if so, doesn’t that imply that four engine aircrafts will go out as well?
David Lemmo (25 days ago)
Quite possibly, although I hope we won't see a time anytime soon where everything has only two engines, it's time to bring back the trijet for long haul overwater flights, when quad jets are no longer necessary.
jan mierzejewski (1 month ago)
Hi guys, New polish government is planning to build a hub in Baranowo (somewhere in the middle of nowhere). After watching this video i'd rather consider it quite a dumb idea. Moreover our national airline LOT started operating dreamliners a few years ago. On the other hand some hubs are likely to survive, but could share your thoughts with me? I can imagine another piece of educational art from Wendover, this time about infrastructure.
Dylan Livingston (1 month ago)
I’m over here on a crj200 😂😂😂
Songbird (1 month ago)
This is a false dichotomy. The 777 is the workhorse of international aviation and it operates between the two extremes presented in this video. It currently has way more orders than the 787 and A380 combined yet it goes unmentioned. Next year it should finally get the attention it deserves thanks to the -9. Anyways the A350 lives in the middle as well. 787s aren’t even small (they’re a lot bigger than the 767 which he calls large at 3:04). I’m a Boeing fan but there’s definitely some selective information here. Boeing’s superiority comes from the fact that they have two advanced wide body twins while Airbus only has one. Not to mention the fact that Boeing’s both got to market first. 777 + 787 >> A350
Good Morning (1 month ago)
Norwegian sint based in norway
Piotr Dudała (1 month ago)
Airbus blew it with A-380 having not built dedicated freighter variants - civilian and military. That would be substantial boost to the program and would limit 4 engine game for Airbus only, as it is freight variant that is keeping 747 alive.
A380 is also good BITCH you can cary with it more passengers and it's also comfortable!!!😡
Seal of Approval (1 month ago)
“Unrivaled focus on passenger comfort” when I flew to England on AA, I was stuck in the middle of the center aisle in economy class, not enough legroom to put my backpack under the seat in front of me. My life goal is to get just ONE first class seat at SOME POINT in my life.
Alexander Bradley (1 month ago)
Btw you mispronounced Birmingham, it is not Burm-ing-Ham, it is bur-ming-um
Alexander Bradley (7 days ago)
Actually I'm from the UK not Birmingham and it is Bir-ming-um
David McKelvie (8 days ago)
Alexander Bradley ... only to the locals, to everyone else in the world it definately got HAM in it :)
Alexander Gorbatschow (1 month ago)
Aren't there still very busy routs between mega-cities, especially in Asia? I think therefor jumbo jets are still useful.
kenneth law (1 month ago)
As a consumer, I'd like to see faster, long haul, skinny jet liner
De CapitanFluffy (1 month ago)
It is evident that most budget long haul carriers are using A330ceo or A330neo. Though the 787 doesn’t also attract the budget carriers but also the major carriers. A330neo only costs $110million as of right now which is very cheap for budget carriers.
rosstee (1 month ago)
787 just flew over my house! Got it on Flightradar24
Jimmy Acorn (1 month ago)
I’m amused by the abundance of the term “Boeing propaganda” in the comments below.
Protoplasm78 (1 month ago)
Jimmy Acorn Bitter Aircrust fanboys who can't handle the truth.
jack texeira (1 month ago)
I still love how the Norwegian 787 looks like a stick of lipstick.
redic (1 month ago)
These are both fantastic planes and both companies are great innovators but the observations are utter uninformed drivel. Nice presentation but sadly the substance and knowledge is lacking and embarrassingly bias. The sales pitch at the end is also unwarranted.
Stuart Morrow (1 month ago)
5:59 Belfast International isn't actually in Belfast.
Rick Allen (1 month ago)
A380 airbus won’t build enough of them to break even
Shayna Javaherian (1 month ago)
Big plane lil plane
Ian Prince (1 month ago)
Went a trip Newcastle to Dublin,it used a propeller aircraft. What distance can propeller planes be more economical?
Paul Lytle (1 month ago)
Belfast northern Ireland no just Belfast Ireland brits out
Wallace Grommet (1 month ago)
The737 max will be the ultimate in flying discomfort. Throw in turbulence delayed inflight service carts blocking access to restrooms on a six hour flight, cramped seating, scaled down size restrooms and voila! You better be tough!
Reactive Xenon (1 month ago)
Im 12
magellanmax (2 months ago)
From Hartford you can go to Logan, Boston for your transatlantic flight and you won't have to go away from your destination first.
Erich Weiler (2 months ago)
if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.. AIRBUS BLOWS. Their pilots can hardly land the most popular airliner in the world. Too much 'technology' in the flight deck. Who do you call when a computer fails? A HUMAN. Airbus sucks. Case in point? A380
Siduel (2 months ago)
Why don't 787 operators fly from Europe to Hawaii? They could do it.
SparkMyke (2 months ago)
The 787 now operates from Nairobi to JFK. Previously there weren't direct flights.
frankpinmtl (2 months ago)
Failure, huh? Well, with $32 BILLION in sunk costs and losing money on the first 700 planes produced, if you look around at articles by aviation experts, the 787 will NEVER break even. How's that for a success?
DREWBOY213 GAMING (2 months ago)
edinburgh... a small city? no it isnt. sure glasgow is bigger but edinburgh is still not a small city. (this is coming from a guy who lives in scotland)
Mitchell DiPanni (2 months ago)
Wendover mentions Connecticut more than I mention Connecticut. I live in Connecticut. I love it.
YourFuneral Director (2 months ago)
You can only have so many A380 flying on specific routes. The airlines that needed them have already bought them. They are so new, there's no need to replace existing aircraft. By the time they do need a replacement, chances are a new different aircraft will be able to fill that void. The manufacturers are always busy at the drawing board designing and dreaming. The 747 is the perfect jumbo because most airports can handle the plane in their facilities as they've been doing for 40ish years. Happy flying!
POPCORNelius (2 months ago)
I think smaller is better (Boeing i better, with more experience)
Douglas Roempke (2 months ago)
”Norwegian based in both Scandinavia and London” What? First he says a region that covers several countries, and then a city. What?
KDGCuber (2 months ago)
I can't believe you're biased with Boeing here *cough* A350 *choke* and you're biased with Airbus on the little plane war video. Which do you really prefer? Airbus or Boeing?
Pablo 2002 (25 days ago)
He is consistently biased towards America and American things. Just read the comments
Murican' Mapper (1 month ago)
KDGCuber I mainly prefer boeing because it has a yoke. I just feel weird with the sidestick For being stuck in economy as a passenger, i dont really care
KDGCuber (2 months ago)
I still can't believe Airbus is working on the A380 plus when only Emirate needs those. Or perhaps they're making it specifically for Emirates.
Justin Gouge (2 months ago)
Well metro edinburgh is like 1.3 millionish thats not that small lol
Clid (2 months ago)
Actually, all the people I asked (who lived in the past 10 years and more) didn't even know about the 787 or the A380 (*THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT BOEING OR AIRBUS*)!
Dan909 Weekly (2 months ago)
Birmingham is pronounced Birmingam not Birmingham
Ascended Life Form (2 months ago)
When I woke up this morning, I could never have fathomed that I would end the day knowing so many new facts about the flight business market and about passenger planes. Boy, are my friends in for a treat next time we hang out and I bombard them with these new facts! ...That's why I don't have any, isn't it?
CraftQueenJr (2 months ago)
Ascended Life Form I wonder, it happens to me too...
Dylan Shramko (2 months ago)
In Hartford, just catch the Aer Lingus flight to Dublin, and connect to London
Xiaolei Chen (2 months ago)
as usual, great video and great (most of the) comments. i think one take-away from comments is that, watch/enjoy the video with some degree of skepticism.
Parimal , (2 months ago)
Felt more of A380 Vs B787 Cheapliner. Now A350ULR will beat all wide body Boeings hands down.
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I avoid 787 when booking. 787 in 3-3-3 configuration feels very uncomfortable. Always prefer A330 with 2-4-2.
WarriorofCathar (1 day ago)
2-4-2 is fine if you're sitting near the windows. I absolutely hate being in the middle row in a 4 configuration. But that's just me.
ameriya deweniaka (12 days ago)
how do you feel about a 777?
SIVY (17 days ago)
PROGRAMISTA NA WAKACJACH - BackpackerDeveloper_com indeed the 777/330 are probably the best and simple long haul aircrafts

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